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Gun Owners' Names, Addresses Could Become Public

A West Haven lawmaker has introduced a bill to make public the names of some 170,000 gun owners in Connecticut.

If you own a gun in this state your name and address could become public under a bill introduced in the General Assembly by State Rep. Stephen D. Dargan, D-West Haven.

Dargan filed the proposal in response to the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown that killed 20 children and 6 women on Dec. 14. His proposal would overturn a law passed in Connecticut 20 years ago that keeps private the names and addresses of gun owners.

In an interview with the Hartford Courant, Dargan said he wants gun ownership information to fall under the state's Freedom of Information Act in part so that parents can know whether the parents of their child's friends have guns in their homes.

"Maybe their kids are going over to Johnny Smith's, and maybe they want to see whether they have guns in the house," he told the newspaper.

Dargan's proposal follows another bill that was filed recently that seeks to limit who can own gun ammunition in Connecticut and to keep such ammunition out of the hands of felons. Gun control issues are expected to dominate the General Assembly's winter session, which formally begins next week, in the wake of the Newtown massacre.

Robert Chambers January 04, 2013 at 08:15 PM
Not technically true... if you are a pistol permit holder.. if you have guns and nobody knows about them (long guns etc) then it won't matter so whatever burglars going into houses thinking the people aren't armed because they aren't permit holders could still wind up with a face full of buckshot.
FRANCES January 04, 2013 at 08:35 PM
Mr Dargan I think you should study the laws of CT regarding owning a Gun. anyone can buy a rifle after a 2 week waiting period with no gun permit. So if you want to publish my personal info please know what you are talking about before you try to do anything. I guess it will look good on your next campaign run though. isn't that what it is all about!
Chris January 04, 2013 at 08:50 PM
Maybe we should also print the names and addresses of people who buy booze. Surely Dargan doesn't want Johnny Smith playing in a home with alcoholics. What about printing the names and addresses of people with communicable diseases? Would Dargan REALLY want his child playing with someone with HIV or Hepatitis? At least publish the list so parents could make an informed decision. Parents might feel uncomfortable just asking people if they have AIDS. Can we have a searchable database of everyone's religious beliefs too? Sure, most of us don't really care, but I'm sure there are some parents who would prefer Johnny Smith didn't hang out with Muslims. I mean, after all, more Muslims in America have committed mass murder in the last 12yrs then lawful gun owners have. Wouldn't it be in the public's best interest if we published that info?
todd berger January 04, 2013 at 09:59 PM
It is not the gun owners who have permits and are legal to have and carry guns that are the problem it is the unregistered and illegal guns carried by crimnals and other unsavory chracters that Mr Dargan should be concerned with. In addition Mr Dargan should be worrying about the residents of his town and their taxes as well as unemployemnt and trying to make West Haven a better city and the State of Connecticut a better place to life work and play for all. So stop trying to ride the band wagon and try and be creative and start your own initiatives to better everyone.
Thomas Roche January 05, 2013 at 12:43 AM
On April 15, 1775, a group of armed citizens, kept a "bunch" of gun grabbers from confiscating their guns. That is how this country began. I wonder if Mr. Dargan is intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about.
Tom January 05, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Let's publish the names of all the people who need to use pain killers so that other parents will know if Little Billy is playing in that house as well.
Robert Chambers January 05, 2013 at 02:07 PM
Ah here we go!!! http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/
Chris January 05, 2013 at 03:45 PM
Robert, this one is better: http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/journal-news-gun-permit-map-endangers-officers-officials-say-1.4407323 Love some of the quotes: Legislator Aron Wieder (D-Spring Valley) called the publication of the list "irresponsible journalism" and said he now fears for his safety because the map broadcast that he does not have a gun license. At the news conference Friday morning, he handed a $150 certified check and a completed pistol permit application to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato. "I never owned a gun but now I have no choice," Wieder said. "I have been exposed as someone that has no gun. And I'll do anything, anything to protect my family." "When I saw the list, I had an immediate flood of emotions that I cannot even describe to you," said Swift. "I originally obtained a gun permit because I had previously been married to a man who attempted to strangle me . . . The first emotion I felt was, 'Oh my gosh, he can find me.'"
Chris January 05, 2013 at 03:47 PM
And just think, while neighboring New York is passing laws close this privacy loophole, Here in CT think it's such a great idea they need to change the law to allow it! Makes ya wonder how good their other ideas on gun control are, or it should.
Robert Chambers January 05, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Unreal! but with a handful of rare exceptions, the folks in Hartford have never really impressed me with their intellectual agility. This is a case in point. I'm hoping Rep. Dargan has second thoughts on this and realizes he's opening a huge can of worms and that people will in fact be less safe rather than safer because of it. The bottom line for the thing he was trying to address is that parents need to vet the friends of their kids and meet their parents. If a kids friends parents give you pause for concern then perhaps you don't let your own child go over that house. Being an involved parent is out of the ordinary these days but there's merit in it.
Bob Cerani January 05, 2013 at 05:58 PM
Mr. Dargan, a typical Democrat, who would rather strip everyone of their guns Had said it right the other day in the new haven register, 'I've been a representative for a very long time" (being elected to the house in 1990). That is the problem Mr. Dargan. We need term limits more than ever. We would not be having this conversation if term limits were in place for you and other long time serving officials in Connecticut. Twenty years is to long for one person to be serving. And not to mention the people YOU would be putting in harms way, The People Who Don't Have Guns. If you should be foolish enough to publish the names of legal gun owners,the criminals will know what houses they could break into. Now that is not a smart thing to do. Shame on you.
Mike January 05, 2013 at 08:45 PM
The Journel News did print the names and addresses of gun owners in Westchester and rockland counties. That was a mistake. The outrage is so intense that new legislation is being written to prevent it from ever happening again, and the newspaper received two envelops with a mysterious white powder that required the attention of the police and hazmat.
Shirley B. Backus January 06, 2013 at 01:25 AM
So right, Bob! You saved me from writing a long comment. If everybody has access to who has guns in their homes, the burglars and violent criminals who are having trouble getting their hands on guns will know exactly where to find them. Please don't let this legislation pass!
Jezebel282 January 06, 2013 at 01:14 PM
Whoa there cowboys and cowgirls. Dog licenses, building permits, liquor permits, car registrations, driver's licenses and credit reports are all public record too. Is everyone going to go out and buy a dog now? We have all decided that medical information (HIPAA) is confidential. Not so with owning a gun, car, dog or new porch.
Robert Chambers January 06, 2013 at 01:28 PM
And so are pistol permits (confidential) that's what Dargan is proposing to change.
Chris January 06, 2013 at 01:35 PM
Most of that stuff is NOT public knowledge in CT, or it's not easily search able. I can NOT look up the license plate # of the car with the pretty girl I saw driving. I can not look up the license plate of the dude who flipped me off in the parking lot. Nor can you look up a person's DL online. The abusive ex can NOT search the DMV database to see where she moved to. I can NOT check you'r credit report unless you sign off allowing me to. Most of your examples are things that are only obtainable in CT by law enforcement or someone with a legitimate need . You crash into my parked car, and then the police will give me your info. They WONT give it to me just because I disagree with you on patch.com.
Shirley B. Backus January 07, 2013 at 03:53 AM
No, it's not public knowleddge yet, but some legislators are pushing to make it so. That's what this is all about: to warn them that making a list of gun owners available to the public will only give the criminals a "shopping list" of homes to break into.
Jezebel282 January 07, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Sure you can! There are hundreds of searchable databases with the names of just about anyone for just about anything. Employers do it all day long as well as anyone who gives you credit terms. Why is your credit history less private than your gun permit?
Robert Chambers January 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM
No you can't Jez, that information by law is confidential. Go look it up if you don't believe me. What Rep Dargan is proposing is to make it public. Meanwhile after the Journal News's stunt in NY, the legislators there are scrambling to make theirs confidential (horse, barn, left).
Chris January 07, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Sorry Jezebel, as they say in the internet world, link it or it isn't true. Show me an online map where I can check my neighbor's credit report. Show me an online map where I can check my neighbor's driver's license and car registration? Credit lenders and potential employers can only access your credit information if you give them explicite permission to do so. That's the law. It's also the law in CT that pistol permit info is on a need to know basis, just like persional medical and financial records. As you said earlier, we have all already decided these things are private and confidential. If you want to revisit that, that's fine but what is happening now in NY is the perfect example of WHY Connecticut made those records private decades ago. Because one newspaper figured out that NY didn't make those records private and published the data, prisoners now know where law enforcement officers and their families live, and are using that info to threaten them. They know know where some of the judges live. Abused and stalked women who have moved to get away from their attackers have now had their addresses published. People who aren't on the list are now applying for permits and buying guns because now criminals and whackjobs know for a fact they can't defend themselves.
Jezebel282 January 07, 2013 at 01:41 PM
I would suggest to go to Equifax, Experian or Transunion and check how many inquiries your credit history received from companies you never heard of. As for linking, I assume there is a space limitation here but feel free to click away: http://www.beenverified.com/, http://www.backgroundcheck.org/, http://www.lexisnexis.com/backgroundchecks/, http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/background-check/ and a bunch of others.
Chris January 07, 2013 at 02:52 PM
Did you actually LOOK at any of the links you mention? I see now maps at all showing all my neighbors. Each and every one of the credit reporting companies only allows me to purchase my own credit score. Even for money it won't give me my neighbors. I looked into you other links pretty carefully, reading their faqs and privacy policies. Each one I have to identify who I'm looking for, and charge a fee for each person. None freely give info on my neighbors. I then see they only include public data, or data *I AGREE TO SHARE* by signing up. They will then share this with other people using their service. In general they are scams. Since you were good enough to find those links online, I'm sure you can also find all the complaints that they don't really offer much beyond age, address and any info you've publicly shared online. You won't be getting a credit report from them, you won't be getting any DMV info from them, and you won't even be getting a complete criminal background check from them.
Jezebel282 January 07, 2013 at 03:05 PM
I would suggest to go to Equifax, Experian or Transunion and check how many inquiries your credit history received from companies you never heard of.
Chris January 07, 2013 at 03:27 PM
I would suggest to go to Equifax, Experian or Transunion and show me a map showing the credit reports of my neighbors. I would suggest to go to Equifax, Experian or Transunion and try and get a credit report for anyone except yourself. You may not recognize all the companies, but you gave them permission or permission to the company that used them. https://help.equifax.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/165 Who can see my Equifax credit report? The Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) specifies who can see your Equifax credit report. Businesses must have a "permissible purpose," as defined in the FCRA, to obtain your credit report. Otherwise, only you and those you give written permission to can access your credit report. Your neighbors, friends, co-workers or family members cannot access your Equifax credit report unless you authorize it. Some examples of those who can access your credit report are: Go to the link for more info.
Karen E Daden January 07, 2013 at 05:07 PM
Agree with you both on not publishing the list and term limits. When will the voting public of this state wake up and realize that sending the same people back to Hartford year after year has only gotten us deeper in debt and unemployment.

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